We have gotten a lot of questions about bubbler containers, overheating of HHO generators and things related.Here is a recent comment:
- Hey guys, I build a simple HHO generator and I got a good output I tested it already with my nissan sentra 1.6L ‘93model, my exhaus emit drops of water. My only problem is the water inside my HHO generator getting too hot, do I need to add cooling device or have something to adjust in my generator? I used spiral stainless wire with 13 turns .5 inch gap., distilled water with 1 teaspoon of baking soda. thanks,
Allan / Manila, Philippines
First off, good work so far, Allen. There are quite a few things to cover here. The water can get pretty hot if your container can handle it. If it is made out of PVC, you have to be careful that it stays below 70 degrees Celsius or the plastic will start to ‘creep’ and change shape as the material becomes slightly liquid. A stainless steel or internally coated metal container could of course handle any temperature you might subject it to. A glass container can take heat but not impacts or any possible explosions. If you have to use PVC or other plastic, you will need to cool your fuel cell. Similarly, if your hydrogen generator is boiling the water it will need cooling to keep the water from steaming out of the unit.
A bubbler tank can help circulate the water and reduce the chances of a flashback destroying your generator at the same time. In the following video we show one experiment we filmed using a small bubbler tank to recirculate the water. The unit we were testing was composed of 4 stainless steel strips, 1 inch wide by 12 inches long, sandwiched together with a 1/8 inch gap. The HHO fuel cell was drawing over 20 amps. The more amps, the more heat produced. This small bubbler tank failed to keep the unit cool enough. Our conclusions were that this unit would need a bubbler at least as large as the unit itself, or a small cooler such as for a transmission. We decided to go with a smaller unit to reduce electrical use and keep the heat production down.
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ummm….install the unit in your trunk…have a 1 gallon reserve tank….use a small aquarium pump to draw it from your unit , it then pushes the water up to the front of your vehicle….(and have a couple of loops in it…then back to your reserve…ample time for cooling… just a loop system…..
Dear Om!
Thanks for the nice artical. I am interested in this topic hho fuel cells. What I want to make myself clear is what happen to the Oxigen parts of the water when it is processing to extract hydrogen.An explanation is most welcome.
thanks again for the nice work!
Colin
OK I have been all over the web trying to answer a burning question. And I do mean burning, in terms of your HHO Generator. How to keep it cool. A few sites including this one says the bubbler tank can help circulate the water. OK how? Where are the diagrams? I know the basic concept of an hho system is that the hho goes from the generator, to the bubbler, and to the engine. I don’t see how that cools anything. However I did find one picture at http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=generatorbubblernv5.png that says that the water from the bubbler can be pumped into the bottom of the generator. Sounds good except that you would have to keep stopping to fill the bubbler tank, and the generator would get overfilled. I haven’t built anything yet, just spending a lot of time doing research before I do. I want to know every little thing first.
H. Seekins:
Did you watch the video? There’s your diagram. The water circulates itself without a pump. You don’t refill anything. The only thing that gets out of the system is the HHO gas, and the water just goes round and round. We just didn’t use a big enough bubbler and our generator was too inefficient so it made too much heat. This one is a lesson in what doesn’t work, and that is why we can tell anyone anything: because we have tried it.
You will never know every little thing. Build something and you will learn a lot more than peeking over shoulders on the internet.
Colin: The oxygen stays mixed with the hydrogen. Therefore it is HHO, two parts hydrogen gas to one part oxygen gas, an explosive mixture that can be dangerous in large amounts.
reading your comments about problems using PVC or glass containers for the generator. how about a SS pressure cooker? the cooker itself would be the ground.
Yes I watched the video, twice in fact. As for doing research on the internet, well I don’t think you can really build anything without some idea of what to do. I would rather learn something and do it right instead of having my name posted in the obituaries. Because of the internet, I got the understanding of how and why hho generators work, some design concepts, and most importantly, safety. I do agree though that hands on experience makes a difference, and with the rising gas prices (current price where I live $4.23, and it’s been as high as $4.29), I am more than determined to build a system. I do have another question, have you done any tests on a bubbler made vertically instead of horizontally? You don’t have to answer, I can just do my own tests and see what happens. I was just curious about any difference in performance, if any.
I have installed a six pack (six mason jars) generator on my f-250 ford truck 2003 5.4 gas engine with 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda per jar i am producing HHO. I have 14 amps going to each to jar so i am getting hho . I put in a 30 amp relay from battery to generator and 40 amp inline fuse. I have a 1/4 inch silcon hose running from the bottom nipple of the sixth jar 1/4 inch from bottom also know as bubbler. I HAVE INJECTED THE HHO INTO THE AIR INTAKE, BUT HAS NO VACUUM ON LINE. SO I HAVE MOVED HHO LINE ABOVE PVC ELBOW VALUE THIS HAS A STRONG VACUUM AND I CAN CONTROL THE VACUUM WITH THE DRIPPER VALUE. I HAVE MORE POWER, BUT I AM NOT GETTING BETTER GAS MILAGE ONLY 15 MPG CAN ANYONE HELP ?
MY E-MAIL IS tphillips29@nc.rr.com
for any response on hho.
Thanks, Viking